好好先生保罗·路德：从喜剧演员到超级英雄

It is almost two decades to the day since Paul Rudd first came to public attention and two things about him have remained unchanged since. The first， most obviously， is his face. Save for some faint lines on his forehead， Rudd looks unnervingly similar to how he did in Clueless， which celebrates its 20th anniversary next week and in which he played the love interest Josh.

The second is his personality： Paul Rudd is just so darn nice. Every interview he has done mentions this and every one of his co-stars says this about him （Amy Poehler recently described him to me in an interview as “Mr. Perfect”）.

By the time I finally meet up with Rudd， he has been stuck inside an airless London hotel room doing interviews for his performance as the eponymous Ant-Man， the latest superhero film in Marvels hugely lucrative stable， for more than eight hours， starting at 7 a.m. Yet in his trim suit and dark shirt he couldnt look less ruffled and more psyched to see me， urging me to partake in refreshments （“No tea？ You sure？ But you must be so hot！”） and latching immediately on to my transatlantic accent. Im not surprised that Rudd seizes on my accent—his parents were British Jews from Edgware and Surbiton， and while Rudd was born in New Jersey in 1969 and raised in the U.S.， he was often in Britain as a kid to visit relatives in Londons less glamorous suburbs and Basingstoke.

Part of Rudds reputation for niceness comes from his eagerness to self-deprecate—not a common trait among Hollywood celebrities—and I had lazily assumed this， too， was an inheritance from his English background. But Rudd puts his self-deprecation down to something more complicated than nationality. His father worked for the airline TWA and the family moved a lot， before settling in Kansas when he was 10.

“I was always in new schools and had British parents， which was not the norm， and I think there was also…Im not particularly religious， but I was born Jewish and I always felt like the outsider because I wasnt Christian or Catholic，” he says. “So I learned early on that I could be accepted if I made people laugh when I turned the joke on myself and， particularly in Kansas， if I made a joke about being Jewish， my friends would laugh really hard， harder than they perhaps should have.”

Yet he talks about his childhood， Kansas and， in particular， his family with enormous fondness， especially his father， who died six years ago and whom he idolised and references often in our time together. One of the defining memories of his younger years is watching his father crack up on the sofa while watching Monty Python， which planted the seed of him wanting to be a comedian and eventually an actor.

Is his friendliness part of that desire to please or does that come from growing up in the midwest？ “There is something about growing up in the midwest that gives a different kind of sensibility，” he agrees. “But if Im feeling insecure， the smiles and politeness get upped a notch， and maybe that isnt totally reflective of how Im feeling on the inside. But， you know， better to be thought of as a nice person than a dickhead.”

While there might be some truth to that， the man is too sweet for it to be just a twitch of insecurity. He doesnt even wince when he is asked—for what must be the 10 billionth time in his life—about Clueless.“Honestly， Im just happy to be involved with something that struck a chord with as many people as it did.”

Rudd could easily have been another cute guy in a 90s film whose career faded out of view in the next decade—another Freddie Prinze Jr， say， or， at best， a Josh Charles—and gives much thanks to Judd Apatow for the opportunities hes been given. “So as far as having an impact on my career， it was really with Anchorman and then The 40 Year Old Virgin where I took a left turn.”

These films certainly rejuvenated Rudds career， but increasingly they started to look like they were trapping him. For every decent comedy in which he has appeared in the past decade， there have been plenty of meh ones （This is Forty， Our Idiot Brother） and too many terrible ones， too（Admission， Dinner for Schmucks， How Do You Know）.

“Over the last 10 years， I never made a very concerted effort to mix it up. I just wanted to work on things that I liked. But I think I was feeling some fatigue over that and wanted to try something different，” he says. And that brings us to Ant-Man.

While superhero movies are now part of Hollywoods landscape， you would go through a lot of names before getting to Rudds when thinking of actors you would expect to add to the superhero roster. As Rudd says himself：“I knew being in this would make people say： ‘What？ Really？” But this is partly why he works in the film—after all， a movie about a man whose special power is that he becomes ant-sized is not calling for a classic macho man. And Rudd will appear as Ant-Man in Captain America： Civil War and may well join the rest of the Avengers in future Marvel Universe adventures. After nailing teen romances in the 90s and fratty comedies in the earlier 2000s， the third and equally zeitgeisty part to Rudds career may well be starting with superheroes.

如今，离保罗·路德首次进入观众的视野几乎已有二十年，但他身上的两样东西却从未改变。第一样，显而易见，就是他的脸。除了前额多了一些细纹外，路德的样子看起来简直和在《独领风骚》里的他一模一样，他在里面扮演女主角的暧昧对象乔希。下周就是《独领风骚》上映二十周年纪念日。

第二样是他的个性：保罗·路德的为人好得过分。他接受的每一个采访都提到过这一点，与他合作过的每一个明星也都这样说（艾米·波勒最近在一个采访中称他为“完美先生”）。

当我终于见到路德时，他正在伦敦一间密不透风的酒店房间里就电影《蚁人》接受采访，他饰演的正是“蚁人”这个角色。《蚁人》是漫威那赚得盆满钵满的超级英雄系列电影中的最新一部。采访从早上7点开始，已经超过了8小时。然而，身穿整洁西装和深色衬衫的路德在看到我时却不见半分不耐烦的神色，反而充满热情，还劝我吃点东西（“不喝茶？你确定？但你肯定觉得很热！”），他马上就适应了我的英国口音。我并不惊讶路德能适应我的英国口音——他的父母是来自埃奇韦尔和瑟比顿的英国犹太人。虽然路德于1969年在新泽西出生并在美国长大，但他小时候经常过来伦敦的偏远郊区和贝辛斯科托探望他的亲戚。

路德为人和善的名声部分源自他的自贬——这个特点在好莱坞的名人中并不常见——我偷懒地把这归因于他的英国背景。但路德认为他的自贬与国籍无关，其中的原因更为复杂。路德的父亲以前在美国环球航空公司工作，他们一家经常搬家，直到路德十岁时，他们才在堪萨斯州定居下来。

“我总是在转学，父母都是英国人，这并不常见。我想这也是因为……我并不特别信奉宗教，但我是个犹太人，总有种自己是个局外人的感觉，因为我既不是基督教徒也不是天主教徒。”他说道，“所以我从小就意识到，如果我开自己玩笑逗乐别人，别人就会接受我，特别是在堪萨斯州，如果我开个与自己是犹太人有关的玩笑，我的朋友会笑得特别起劲，按理说他们本不会笑得那么起劲的。”

他还谈到了他的童年，除了在堪萨斯州的生活外，路德还热切地谈到了他的家庭，尤其是他的父亲。他父亲在六年前去世了，路德非常崇拜他，在我们的谈话过程中多次提到他。路德有一个尤为重要的童年记忆片段，那就是看着父亲在沙发上一边观看蒙提·派森的电影一边狂笑，这让他萌生了当一名喜剧演员的想法，并最终成为一名演员。

他的友善是否与他希望取悦别人的渴望或在中西部长大的经历有关？“在中西部长大让我拥有一种与旁人不同的敏感。”他同意。“如果我感到不安，我就会露出微笑，表现得更有礼貌，但也许这并不是我内心的真实感觉。但，你明白的，让人觉得你是一个好人总比让人觉得你是个笨蛋要好。

也许这是真的，这个男人只要感到一丝不安就会表现得非常友好。甚至当他被问到——这一定是他人生中第一百亿次被问到这个问题——有关《独领风骚》的问题时，他的脸上也没有任何异色。“说实话，有幸参与到一部打动了这么多人的电影，我只感到高兴。”

路德本可能成为90年代电影里又一个讨观众喜欢的家伙，然后在接下来的十年里渐渐淡出观众的视野——比如说，另一个小弗雷迪·普林兹，或者顶多是另一个乔希·查尔斯。多亏贾德·阿帕图给了他很多的机会，他才没有走上这样的道路，他对此非常感激。“目前为止，对我的事业影响最大的就是《王牌播音员》，然后便是《四十岁的老处男》，这两部电影让我的事业进入了一个新的方向。”

这些电影当然对路德的事业有所帮助，但渐渐地它们似乎也限制了他的发展。在过去十年他参与的所有喜剧中，有许多无聊片子（《四十而惑》《我们的傻老哥》），还有许多烂片（《爱在招生部》《笨人晚宴》《你怎知道》）。

“在过去十年里，我没有很尽力让事情有所改变。我只想做自己喜欢的工作。但我也感到了疲惫，想尝试一些不同的东西。”他说道。这就让我们看到了《蚁人》。

超级英雄系列电影现在是好莱坞的一道风景线，当你回想扮演超级英雄的演员名单时，你脑海里会先闪过许多其他名字才会想到路德。正如路德自己所说：“我知道参演这部电影会让人们说：‘什么？真的？”但这也是他会参与其中的原因之一，畢竟，男主角的超能力是变成蚂蚁大小，这样一部电影并不需要拥有传统猛男形象的男星。路德将会在《美国队长3：内战》中作为“蚁人”出现，也许以后还会参演其他的《复仇者联盟》系列电影。继上世纪90年代演了许多优秀的青春爱情片以及在本世纪初演了许多“烂仔帮”类型的喜剧片后，路德演艺生涯的第三个重要阶段也许将从超级英雄开始。